Richard chats with a therapist and a photographer in the front row before bringing on his triumvirate of guests, Danielle Ward, Michael Legge and Margaret Cabourn-Smith, otherwise known as the Do The Right Thing podcast. They discuss celebrity snogs and failed celebrity snogs, the attempt to move their podcast to TV, what happens when you meet your dad in a dark room (not photography based), giving birth to the children of Tiny Andrew Collings, why Richard will probably never be a successful actor and a lot about death. Plus some tributes to shared producer Ben and is it better to podcast for free than be a highly paid TV star.