Recently retired Border Patrol Chief Chris Clem served 27 ½ years in El Paso, Texas, and more recently, Yuma, Arizona. Since retiring from his position, he has worked in the private sector combating human trafficking and other online and social exploitation. Theo is joined by a former Border Patrol Chief to talk about what’s really been going on at the U.S. / Mexico border. They talk about the history that led up to our current situation, the difference between immigration policy and border security, how the Cartel exploits migrants for money, the politicization of the border from both sides, and what needs to be done to fix it.